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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:56:00 -
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Did you know, if you have one of those macro keyboards, CCP gives you full permission to use it, so if CCP bother to question botters they can easily reply "im not botting im using the keyboard".
Probably why they only target RMT and not bother with the insane amount of bots
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.06 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrant I said it before and I will say it again.
If we want to remove all the botters all we have to do is remove the local in 0.0 and make it delayed mode. This will do a couple things.
It will make scouts actually useful and people wont rely on that damn local count. It will also make every single 0.0 botter die in a fire to stealth bombers + recons. Lastly, it will boost black ops and covert bridges.
Theres 3 kinds of botters and tbh directional scanners can easily be used to see who is in the system so macros wont really have an issue, in case you missed the link that was provided, botters are in WHs too :P
Macro ratters, macro miners, macro haulers all need shooting with a silver bullet
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.06 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrant
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Originally by: Tyrrant I said it before and I will say it again.
If we want to remove all the botters all we have to do is remove the local in 0.0 and make it delayed mode. This will do a couple things.
It will make scouts actually useful and people wont rely on that damn local count. It will also make every single 0.0 botter die in a fire to stealth bombers + recons. Lastly, it will boost black ops and covert bridges.
I did, I get what you are saying but I dont think it will do alot of harm to botters, dont get me wrong I would prefer local to be gone in 0.0 and think it should happen anyway but there needs to be something done about ALL types of botting not just 0.0 ratters.
Theres 3 kinds of botters and tbh directional scanners can easily be used to see who is in the system so macros wont really have an issue, in case you missed the link that was provided, botters are in WHs too :P
Macro ratters, macro miners, macro haulers all need shooting with a silver bullet
did you not see the part about cloaky ships? stealth bombers and recons and such?
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Kalle Demos on 06/12/2010 13:53:23 According to that website the bot has been bought 6139 times lol, since CCP are cool with botters and there is no reason for more than 1 purchase im going to have to assume more than 10% of the population are botters, the scary thing is thats just one website AND only applies to macro ratting.
1 in 10 eve players are gay and by the looks of it 3 in 10 eve players are botters.
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.06 14:20:00 -
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From the 'best' bot guide
Quote: Overview needs to be unpinned, it is very important that your overview like your local tab are unpinned, otherwise the stars or celestial objects will interfere with X-XXX which will result in unwanted outcomes
There is alot of these 'strict' rules and alot of other stuff too, killing off bots isnt really as hard as one would think, if CCP could go research the bot then perhaps they would be able to see what the bot heavily depends on
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.06 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Kalle Demos From the 'best' bot guide
Quote: Overview needs to be unpinned, it is very important that your overview like your local tab are unpinned, otherwise the stars or celestial objects will interfere with X-XXX which will result in unwanted outcomes
There is alot of these 'strict' rules and alot of other stuff too, killing off bots isnt really as hard as one would think, if CCP could go research the bot then perhaps they would be able to see what the bot heavily depends on
Are you saying they should redesign the GUI to mess up bots or they should feed back GUI customisations in order to ban bots?
Prevent unpinning of boxes, which imo is a stupid thing to allow anyway and make boxes more tranparent
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.06 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: holding pattern58 Actually a simpler solution would be to have people with negative standing afk-cloak in each of the botter systems. If the bots then start mining/plexing again you are free to shoot them.
From what I've heard most of the bots will stay docked/safespot whenever a non-blue enters system, thus preventing them from making isk.
Too bad we don't have an alliance who can disrupt bot activities on such a massive scale with afk cloakers.
Even if there was a neut afk cloaker in every system in the game it wouldnt remotely affect macro miners, which are equally annoying.
Hmm I am starting to obsess about this a little too much, this I will take a 24h forum break :)
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.06 20:22:00 -
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LMFAO I just went on yet another site which has 3407 active eve bot members <sigh> and it looks like people have created usernames based on eve players, haha almost every famous eve player is on there, ofc its all bull**** since I doubt all the leaders want to risk but it is pretty funny
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.07 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: PhoenixDawn Just do cloaks like they did with warp stabs... make it pretty much pointless to put a cloak on a ship intended to shoot something (other than ships specifically designed for cloaks, which *always* have crappy combat ability).
Change the velocity penalty to a targeting resolution penalty. So if a non-covert designed ship fits a cloak it's strictly for one purpose: cloaking. The ship can't engage in any activity which requires it to target anything in a timely manner.
So, botting ratters will be forced to remove their cloaks. If they want to use modules that reduce their sig against scanning they'll have no tanks, rendering them far too vulnerable to be efficient at ratting.
This one change would not impact AFK cloaking and the like, but in one fell swoop essentially removes the macro bot safety net.
Sound good I guess or just limit cloaks to cloaky ships only :D
But again theres more than one type of bot, not just ratters I would hate to see macro miners free from the hate.
Also I went on another site which is the one that 'reads' the memory, while it requires a person with brains to actually use it, it supposedly is the king of all bots.
I wouldnt suggest anyone go drooling spam downloading it, you would need to know how to script which is probably why the script is so popular with 0.0 mega alliances.
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.07 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kalle Demos on 07/12/2010 14:53:46 So I was a bit funny about the 40 mil an hour comment and decided to check on sisi yesterday and today to confirm this for the sake of things.
Ok so I dont really know about the sov upgrades in a system and well I just assumed MI meant something ratting related (higher meaning more rats or some ****), sadly only EC- (lol nc) was (and probably still is considering what was going on) the only MI 5 system and well I dont mean to point fingers at any alliance but I would assume based on what I saw this is the queen system for a special kind of testing.
Anyway -0.45 (Syndicate) with a bc brought in without looting 22 mil an hour lol EC-, well I got flamed at and got told to gtfo out of the system gfgf, I was interrupting their 'private' testing. I went to a MI 3 in catch today (GE- -0.21), made about 29 mil but it wasnÆt a great system, not enough belts imo, ran out of ammo half way and well someone signed the corp up to militia recently on sisi out of all things and I was so ****ed at dying while autopiloting the way down I decided to just end things there
So yeh I would say a person could make approx 40mil easily without a macro and that EC- is completely different on sisi to what it is like on tranq, if you know what I mean
Oh and all testing was done manually, no botting and if you do happen to see my failfit losses to station guns they were only done for the sake of making ISK through insurance since well yeh everything is at full price (smartbombing noctis = 20mil x 10 = 200mil)
How is this relevant to this thread, I donÆt really know tbh but thanks for reading.
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.08 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Aessoroz
-Sniping alpha maelstroms at every low sec gate where 300+ macro haulers per minute pass through -Afk cloaker bombers in every known 0.0 botting system -Suicide ganks on a massive level in ALL belts across empire
Slightly altered your post but I agree, since CCP cant be bothered todo anything I guess it is up to players once again to do something.
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.08 11:05:00 -
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Warden sucks, glider can run freely without warden even noticing.
Change the mechanics of mining making it more hands on and not point & click.
Change NPCs AI make them smarter, make them warp jam, use EW more and warp off if in danger, this should apply to missions too
Change the UI so it isnt designed to favour botters
Botters can then keep their 982745983749823 botting accounts but will have to play more :P
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.08 12:29:00 -
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I logged on after DT with a thought, based on Dotlan I asked myself "well if theres the option to see where all the NPC'ing is happening, then why not take advantage of those stats", sadly the stats were based on 24hours which werent really all that helpful.
If there was an option "Number of NPCs killed in the last 1 hour" or "Average number of rats killed in the last 24 hours" maybe we could work out macro hot spots, for example a bot can freely rat 23.5/7 so the systems he is ratting is will have a higher ratting average than lets say a person who rats for 2 hours.
As for macro miners which you guys are still neglecting to include in this problem, "Number of asteroids mined in the last hour" similar stats would at least give players the ability to intervene.
While I feel CCP should be ultimately the ones to deal with this problem, I am sure if CCP introduced stats useful for us to use, players could at least hunt botters.
I am now officially bitter about bots
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.08 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ram Strider Edited by: Ram Strider on 08/12/2010 12:43:17 Im gonna feed you in the bot if you dont tell me what RMT is?
ps just ban every russian and chinese player from all online games, they all hack and cheat and sell ingame items on ebay, everyone knows this
KIAEddz is German :P and according to some of these sites, the best providers are from the US
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.08 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dagny Bronstein
If you cant beat them, join them
Your concerns have already been noted, so I will sum up what WILL happen if things remain, more bots + more people leaving, soon enough eve will be Bots Online according to the current stats approx 20% of active only players are botting or have the potential to :P
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.08 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Feilamya
Originally by: Othran I've been in alliances/corps where there's always someone that seems to have been "left logged in by mistake" and doesn't talk for 10 hours or so on channels or vent/TS. Haven't most of you noticed the same and isn't it always the same people now you think about it?
There are entire corps and maybe even alliances of obvious farmers, who are blue to some of the major power blocks. A short trip through the drone regions can open your eyes for the real magnitude of the RMT problem.
Bull. You've never been to the drone regions.
I do feel sorry how the bad press is on you guys, theres botters everywhere in 0.0 and people cant really single out the Russians espeically when the 'Russians are botters' propaganda was started by nc lol
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 16:17:00 -
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Do what they do on travian, when a person is suspected of botting they alone receive a captcha or whatever those things are called.
It is bloody effective how it works, no one gets banned but obvious automated stuff gets a captcha, if botters wish to be singled out then so be it.
People created new bots and **** but it has really turned into a nice system how they get the info on how the bot works put it in their anti bot system, so botters are always constantly having to update their program making it very difficult or inefficient to bot.
WOW has a [Teleport Botter] system to tackle botters, where known botters are typically teleported, there is a lot of ways to counter botters without damaging income or affect other players.
You should also hear some of the whines the bots use on travian, they will get a captcha and complain about it 12 hours later,
"Hi the reason I am complaining now is because when the captcha happened I decided to log off without bothering to fill it in"
"I am not a bot, the only reason I didnt bother filling in the captcha was because my computer crashed"
They measure the time it takes to respond to the captcha too and from their reports not a single bot has effectively replied, unfortunately their anti botting system requires you to be playing for 3 hours before it can recognise if you are a bot or not, but 3 hours is fine for eve imo.
Browser game has a better anti-botter program than eve
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II words
Did you miss the part where I said this only affects bot like behaviour, if you are tabbed out this WONT affect you?
How the hell do you manage todo a combat mission and do laundry & dishes anyway, besides I said this should affect ratting / mining bots
So if you are copying identical stuff as a bot, then you deserve to get a captcha, if you are doing the dishes a captcha wont appear because well you will be in game doing nothing, if you are doing the dishes and somehow magically mine at the same time I think you would deserve a captcha.
As far as I have seen, the anti-botting protocols used have been really effective
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler WeÆre currently putting together more information on our efforts to fight RMT and we will make that available to everyone next week. We appreciate that this is something you are all very passionate about and we look forward to answering your questions.
As it has been stated over and over the issue ISNT just RMT, it is botting used for personal gain, unholy rage targetted RMT ONLY.
CCP need to focus on botting in general careless of RMT, this includes macro ratting, macro mining and macro hauling, going after RMT ONLY just confirms the rumours that CCP dont care about botters unless they RMT.
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 10/12/2010 18:40:43
Originally by: Kalle Demos How the hell do you manage todo a combat mission and do laundry & dishes anyway, besides I said this should affect ratting / mining bots
activate perma-tank, pull aggro, deploy drones
edit. wrong character, Cyaxares is my alt
Ok well eitherway anti-botting wont affect you, because A no macro would be even remotely efficient doing that (because of triggers and just a bad way of doing missions) and B because you arent clicking anything :P
When you are mining, despite being able todo it with little attention you still have to click one every few mins, your style of mission running doesnt.
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kalle Demos on 10/12/2010 19:23:39
Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
edit2: how exactly do you imagine this bot detection would work? not exactly hard for the bot author to introduce substantial randomization of bot behavior.
I dont think you get this still, if this was an idea I created, I probably would agree with you but theres already a nice and effective way in dealing with bots and techniques that I have mentioned are being used and have been effective for many years, other games do this, who openly announce they check bots to understand their enemy.
If a bot gets changed your anti-botting WONT be picking up on bots, the following is most likely the reason
A- The bot has been changed like glider for the 5000th time
or a very unlikely scenario
B- no one is botting
EVE isnt the only game out there but by the looks of it is the only one that doesnt do anything against non-RMT botters, sounds to me your concerns are more todo with your afk income than anything else.
Originally by: ILikeMarkets lmao wow. Captcha has to be the dumbest EVE idea I've ever heard of.
I can see it now- miner is going. Suddenly a ganker warps into the belt. Time to leav...
LOLCAPTCHA!!! Worst timing ever. Please fill me out before you can warp to safety.
Bye bye hulk. :)
Like I said it would ONLY apply to botters, so if botters are the only one affected who would really care, besides who really warps out when they see another player in their belt, by the time you have aligned you are dead anyway.
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Kalle Demos on 10/12/2010 19:58:42
Originally by: ILikeMarkets
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Like I said it would ONLY apply to botters, so if botters are the only one affected who would really care, besides who really warps out when they see another player in their belt, by the time you have aligned you are dead anyway.
So wait... your entire plan henges on them already knowing who the botters are?
Except... if they already know who the botters are, why not just ban them? Isn't the point of the captchas to catch the botters?
Go look up recursion on google.
Im bored, please troll tomorrow when I care
Also read what I have written :P
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: xo3e 1) delayed local 2) npc gives aggro timer same as players (if someone will log off while being aggroed by npcs - his ship will warp out to spot and will be there for 15 minutes) 3) standard cloaking device (not cov-ops cloak) must consume capacitor, so BS full of cap-mods will be out of cap in 15 or so minutes and then decloak
= no bots (and atomic rage of 00 carebears as bonus)
<3 it, especially 3, means probers will be used more
Shame no one from Hydra applied to be a CSM
/brown nose off :D
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein snip
I would prefer a change to the mechanics on how mining and ratting and various other boring tasks work, but CCP are hardly known for being quick on changes.
So im thinking change it to 'xo3e' idea but for goodness dont do another unholy rage that ONLY targets RMT, ALL botters need to be focused on.
As to your "games try to scare" while this may be true, in other games I have actually seen bans given for botting careless of RMT, they are usually temp bans followed by permo bans but there is a focus of getting rid of bots.
I will wait to hear what CCP say next week, there is no point in raging atm.
Oh and "CCP cant deal with botters because it requires too much time" is a poor excuse much like the "CCP cant put new stuff in game to counter bots, it puts too much strain on the server" when every expansion HAS contained a **** load of new stuff.
I hate getting involved in heated **** like this but right now I am thinking "what is the point of ANYONE PvE'ing when they can just get a bot go afk, put zero effort in the game and get everything".
If people want no risk PvP they should go play on sisi :P
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dmoney3788 Why doesn't CCP do something like punkbuster?
Because everyone is a secret agent in real life with so much valuable information on their computer that they dont get how warden / punkbuster works and worried Wikileaks will get hold of the information and destroy the world.
Saying that what does CCP have access to now, when I log onto eve what can they see, I am currently a week into a petition todo with a 'skill bug' and after 7 replies finally asked "you know you guys have access to my account it would be much easier to just look yourselves rather than have me explain".
So what exactly can CCP see now? IP only
Warden
CCP can sue botting companies after and make money
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Kalle Demos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kraundewr For God's sake people, wake up. Game companies are about money. Accounts = cash flow into CCPs pocket.
If you seriously think CCP will "ban" botters and macro miners then you need to HTFU.
Perhaps you should recommend that for every botting/macro account you will personally pay the GTC cost per lost account. CCP might listen then.
Then they should remove all the rules, as long as they are making money that is all that matters right?
Freedom for exploiters Freedom for hackers Freedom for cheaters
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Posted - 2010.12.11 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos Will CCP be addressing RMT only or will they actually do something about botting unrelated to RMT
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Posted - 2010.12.11 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Do you really want to 1/4 population ( yes that icludes big alliances macro fleets ) of the servers to dissapear . How will taht look for CCP.
Theres more than one way to fix any problem, banning isnt the only solution, right now though I would like to know what they are addressing.
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Posted - 2010.12.11 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Corcyrus Endymion
Originally by: Per Bastet Why not Implement a Name and Shame for Botters that are Caught? Then the Rest of Eve Can Spend some time Ganking them.
We have the Capability to Self Police to a Good extent - But we need to know who to nail to the wall.
Great that you have the ability to self police all of EvE: Most botters can be found in the following sovereignity holding alliances: Please gank them on a consistent enough basis:
- IT alliance - Goonswarm Alliance - Triple A
There you go.
ALL OF 0.0!! Not just them, even the ones without space too
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Posted - 2010.12.14 08:32:00 -
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As expected the devblog was nothing more than RMT, wake up CCP, the bot costs the same as buying 1 bill, why would anyone with a brain risk buying ISK when they can get a bot and get unlimited ISK faster and easier.
It is like arresting drug dealers but saying the grow houses are too difficult to spot, sigh.
Now my bitter side has returned, I think I will go rat AND mine for 2 months straight on all my chars, nothing out of the ordinary is it
IN ORDER TO KILL A WART YOU NEED TO KILL THE ROOTS!!
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Posted - 2010.12.15 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin
Last time they banned bots (unholy rage)
Actually they never banned bots, unholy rage was to tackle RMT
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Posted - 2010.12.16 13:17:00 -
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Seems like the patch yesterday and today has made people focus on other stuff.
I guess if you need anything doing right, you have todo it yourself.
Next Hulageddon in mid jan yeh?
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Posted - 2010.12.16 16:25:00 -
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The GM blog on this is out, as you can see the issue is RMT and botting is something that is difficult to detect.
DEVBLOG!!
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Posted - 2011.01.02 15:45:00 -
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CCP need to change mining, ratting and all those boring stuff to make it some what hard to bot
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Posted - 2011.01.05 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pookie McPook The means is already in our hands.
Hulkageddon. Use it.
Thank you and goodnight.
Yes im sure the macro ratters are heavily affected by this
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Posted - 2011.01.06 19:40:00 -
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Ratting changes - Rats will now give no bounty but are treated like missions, where you get the mission to kill XXX and return back.
However the mission will be by a neutral agent that has no affiliation with any NPC, the mission will send you different places etc and when you kill the rat you will be rewarded with X amount of ISK, do it like FW missions where it can be done in a SB but also rewards nicely too.
Mining changes - only 1.0 systems will have asteroid belts on your overview with limited amounts, you will have to scan all other asteroid fields out. this will apply to ice mining too, the difference is ice mining will only have enough ice for a few people not the 98374598395385 supply it has atm.
There will be more asteroid belts but have less in, there will also be alot more ice belts but with a huge reduction.
Everyday that CCP stalls on fixing macros is the equivalent of 600 billion made through macros
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Originally by: Aelius Extracted directly from one of those FREE to play games forums:
Quote: Botting, macros, everything you need to know.
Postby toastgodsupreme on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:48 am PERCEPTION IS REALITY! That means if you look like a bot, fight like a bot, react like a bot, and respond like a bot, then you must be a bot. It doesn't matter if you're using a third party program to do it, or the in game macros, or some special keyboard with macros. A bot, is a bot, is a bot.
So what do we consider botting? If you are AFK while your character is doing one of the following, and unable to respond to a GM's requests then you are considered a bot:
* Changing targets and attacking. * Using skills/items. * Looting items. * Gathering items.
So let me be very clear once again... IF YOU ARE AFK AND YOUR CHARACTER IS DOING ONE OF THOSE THINGS IN THE LIST, YOU ARE CONSIDERED BOTTING.
There is absolutely no visual difference from you being afk and using macros and you using a bot. Each can use skills, loot, and change targets. So stop being ******s about it and thinking you're slick. If your character is playing the game and you are AFK, YOU ARE BOTTING AND WILL BE JAILED FOREVER IF/WHEN YOU ARE CAUGHT. :roll:
All of this is common sense really. But SOME of you need it spelled out for you. So here it is, VERY clearly spelled out. And from now on, unless Erb or Goog challenges one of my jailings, I will no longer provide screenshots or videos to players. By now you should all know that I don't jail people for botting without solid proof.
Oh, and the excuse of "well, I let my friend/cousin/brother/sister/etc play my account" will ALWAYS fail. Plain and simple. YOU are responsible for your account and all actions taken on it by anyone you choose to let play on it.
Now CCP if even free to play games have found the solution, don't tell us that you can't... unless... as they are free to play they aren't afraid of losing money on the accounts they ban, which you can't say the same. Right CCP?!
WoW has a somewhat similiar rule
Back in the glorius days of grind grind grind (not that its any different now), I use to end up in a small cave in western feralas, this area use to be rich for golden pearls which sold nicely.
During this time GMs contacted me on more than one occasion and we always got in a nice conversation, I did ask "hmm so why did you contact me?" each time and got replies like "health & safety really, just seeing if everything is ok since you have been online for a bit".
Obviously he wanted to see if I was a bot but couldnt say that, anyway with 450+ supercarriers getting pumped out a month I dont think this is something that should be ignored or marked as 'low priority'.
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Posted - 2011.01.14 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: CSM CCP Minutes Discussion then turned to the issue of botting and RMT, and what could be done to reduce their impact on the game. As this discussion involved potential countermeasures, it is sealed under NDA.
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I find it funny how out of the whole thing this discussion was the shortest, I understand that you cant tell us some stuff but you could have atleast told us the following.
1. Will macro ratting and macro mining be targeted 2. When can players expect to see a change 3. Can incursions be changed to affect botting (ie warp jamming etc)
The CSM have already stated that CCP have said they would look into RMT in 2011 or so, which sounds really bad, is this still the case or will CCP look at both RMT & botting THIS YEAR
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Posted - 2011.01.14 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sixtina KL
Originally by: Kalle Demos The CSM have already stated that CCP have said they would look into RMT in 2011 or so, which sounds really bad, is this still the case or will CCP look at both RMT & botting THIS YEAR
Hmmm...
(getCurrentYear().equals("2011"))
Function returns "true"
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Guess you missed the 'or so' part
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Posted - 2011.03.19 04:39:00 -
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I too am fed up with the bots
I wish CCP would do something about NC bots :( .
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Originally by: Nadarius Chrome Edited by: Nadarius Chrome on 19/03/2011 06:57:28 Check out *****2's (where the stars obscure the common word for a female of negotiable affection) history of managing to sell overpriced shuttles.
200m for one (sold in 36 minutes) on 16/2/2011 1bn for one (sold in 33 minutes) on 20/2/2011 500m for one (sold in 24 minutes) on 1/3/2011 And one listed right now for 1bn. Bet a new char buys it any minute now.
This is obviously someone's alt. Only other contracts it has are couriers from around the place to Villore, obviously where his main lives. Time to biomass that one whoever owns it.
where the stars obscure the common word for a female of negotiable affection
If the forums werent bugged I would never have got have said.
The player in question is *****2 the word starred out is also starred out below.
"A person who drools over killmails is a killmail *****, who contributes to nothing but killmail whoring, then claims to be elite because his stats are full of blobs where all he did was killmail *****" .
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Posted - 2011.03.20 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Crucis Cassiopeiae And all this botting is producing Super-Cap numbers rising.
And you cant say that this is not killing EVE... 450 supercaps produced every month... and that is old data... well... that is sad...
Actually my comment was based on 2 months not one (my bad) so its just under 300+ atm but only Dr Enjo can confirm this ;) saying that.
In the QEN it was close to 180+ SUPERCARRIERS (titans I wont even go into), this was in October, last year in March it was 80+ a month, thats an increase of approx 100 produced AND confirmed, based on those stats it is safe to say it is close to 300 now.
I may have been wrong about the 450+ comment but considering the growth it would hit those numbers within 6 months and again this doesnt include titans. .
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Posted - 2011.07.11 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Avila Cracko
All this was, was closing ppls eyes with "we listen you" and "we are doing something" phrases. yea... they gave us THE BUTTON, but only button don't do anything. But, they won, they closed out eyes and we are waiting for that promised blog for next 18 months, till they make up some other phrases...
Anom changes? 0.0 changes? UI changes?
What exactly do you want them to do, name and shame all the bots :P at least do some research and check the 'bot' websites, they have persistently had 'issues' with CCP patches which has resulted in their bots becoming less reliable.
Besides NC are dead now, so the prop thread isnt necessary anymore, the 'real' RMT powerhouse is dead, DRF barely have enough ISK to be considered RMT .
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